In March of 2019, 50 people were charged for their role in a concerted effort to buy admission to America’s elite universities. Among them was the heir to the Hot Pockets fortune, Michael Janavis; Oscar-nominated actress Felicity Hoffman; And TV star Lori Loughlin and her designer husband Mossimo Giannulli.

Perhaps the most notorious recipients of the program were Mrs. Loughlin and Mr. Giannoli’s daughter Olivia Jade Giannulli, who was admitted to the University of Southern California under the false pretext that her ability to work as Coxwin would be a strength of the school’s rowing team. (A fabricated sports profile of Mrs. Giannulli, the influencer who has nearly two million subscribers to her YouTube channel, identified her as coxswain for Los Angeles Marina Club does not exist.)

Mrs. Loughlin and Mr. Giannulli initially claimed to be innocent, but pleaded guilty in May after prosecutors released theatrical images that Mr. Giannulli installed of Mrs. Giannoli and her sister wearing rowing machines.

Ms. Laughlin was sentenced to two months in prison, and her husband to five years. Mrs. Giannulli was never charged with a crime, and none of the other children who benefited from the scheme were charged.

On Tuesday, 21-year-old Mrs. Giannulli, who has been silent about the scandal, appeared on Facebook’s “Red Table Talk” hosted by Jada Pinkett-Smith; Her daughter Willow. And Ms. Pinkett Smith’s mother, Adrian Banfield Norris. The show has become a destination for nearby celebs and celebrities to talk openly about things they haven’t talked about publicly before.

Here are some of the points obtained from Ms. Janioli’s interview.

She was “confused” about the application process.

Although no charges have been brought against any student as part of the federal investigation into the admission scandal, the extent of Ms. Giannoli’s knowledge of the fraud remains unclear.

While the original FBI complaint indicated that some students were “unaware” of their parents’ efforts on their behalf, in a memo recommending prison sentences for Mrs. Laughlin and Mr. Giannulli, the US Assistant Attorney General wrote that Mrs. Giannulli She discussed with her parents “How to avoid the possibility of a high school counselor disrupting their scheme.”

After the counselor expressed suspicion to the admissions officer at the University of Southern California that Mrs. Giannulli was involved in the crew, the memo indicated that her father personally confronted the counselor “forcefully” and asked why he was “trying to ruin or block the path of” opportunities “for Mr. Giannulli’s daughter. Evidence in court included a forged biography that outlined Mrs. Giannoli’s alleged athletic career.

During the “Red Table Talk” discussion, Ms. Giannulli described her awareness of her parents’ intrigues in vague terms.

“I didn’t really 100 percent understand what just happened,” she said, referring to the fallout from the scandal. “Because there were so many, when I was applying, I wasn’t fully aware of what was going on.”

And she continued: “I was definitely confused when all this appeared.” And I went and confronted them with everything. They really didn’t have much to say, except for, like, ‘I’m so sorry. I, like, really got it wrong trying to do the best for you and your sister. ”

She said reading the reports about the university application and credentials was confusing. “I wasn’t aware of what was going on, because I worked so hard,” she said.

She is sorry.

Although Ms Giannoli has stopped claiming active participation in the scam, she has used her time in “red table talk” to offer her first eligible public apologies.

“For a long time, I couldn’t talk about this because of the legal aspects behind it,” she said. “I never had to say, ‘I’m really sorry that this happened’ or, ‘I really realize this was a big mess on everyone’s part. “

She later added, “I think the important thing for me is to come here and say, ‘I’m sorry. Acknowledge what was wrong. And I couldn’t say that for a long time. So I think people almost think, “Oh, you shouldn’t bother.”

By contrast, at least another student, whose mother pleaded guilty to forgery and conspiracy as part of the same federal investigation, issued a statement of apology as soon as the news of the scandal broke.

Jack Buckingham wrote in a statement: “I feel upset that without my knowledge I participated in a grand scheme that helps give children who may not work as hard as others an advantage over those who truly deserve those sites.” To The Hollywood Reporter on March 13, 2019One day after his mother, Jane Buckingham, was arrested. (Mrs. Buckingham has been secretly recorded plotting to give her son a fake ACT test so that he is not aware that his apparently high score is not real.) “So I’m sorry even though I know that my word doesn’t mean much to a lot of people at the moment.”

In his statement, Mr. Buckingham indicated that he had “advised him not to speak on the matter at hand.”

She did not initially understand why her parents were wrong.

Ms Giannoli opened the interview by talking about the positive aspects of seeing her parents brought to justice.

“I think this was a really great experience for me and the situation, and even though there was a lot of negativity around it and there were a lot of mistakes and irregularities, it led me to have a completely different look at a lot of what she said.

But when the news spread, she later said in the interview, that she wasn’t sure why people were so angry that her parents paid for her way to college.

She said, “I remember thinking, ‘How do people get angry at this? At the time, she said, adding that she was thinking, “I don’t really understand what’s wrong with this. “

The acceptance scandal has become a symbol of a higher education system that is already seen as exploitable for those who have the means, and not all of them can be defeated for those who do not.

“The higher education system has always benefited people from privileged backgrounds,” Aisha Halim, a student at the University of California, Los Angeles, told the New York Times shortly after the plan was announced.

Ms Giannoli said that the privilege was so abundant among her peers that it was almost imperceptible to her. “A big part of enjoying a privilege is not knowing you have a privilege. So when it was happening I didn’t feel wrong.” “I didn’t feel it was unfair, a lot of people don’t have it.”

You weren’t quite welcome to the red table.

Before Mrs. Giannulli sits at the table, Ms. Banfield-Norris, known on the show as Jamie or Gam, said she would have preferred not to attend.

Ms. Pinkett Smith said Mrs. Giannulli had requested to be on the show. Mrs. Banfield Norris said she “resisted” Mrs. Jannioli’s “tooth and nail” look.

“I found it really ironic that she chose three black women to reach out to them for the Redemption Story,” said Ms. Banfield-Norris. “I feel like we’re here, a white woman coming to black women for support when we’re not getting the same thing from them. It’s upsetting to me on many levels. Her presence here is an example of white privilege.”

Mrs. Pinkett Smith returned saying that she didn’t want to be unkind with others just because they weren’t generous with her.

“People look at us and say, ‘You’re black and you’re female,’ and they automatically put us in a category,” said Ms. Pinkett Smith. “So looking at it as white, young, and distinguished and then putting it into classification, that’s the same thing. So I see it as this cycle.”

Mrs. Banfield Norris responded, “It is not our responsibility to raise her awareness.”

She wants to return the favor.

Although Mrs. Giannulli expressed remorse and said she was not worthy of pity, she added that a relatively recent experience had played a large role in helping her understand why people were so angry with her and her parents.

A few weeks ago, she said, she volunteered in the Watts neighborhood of south Los Angeles, where she worked with the kids on an after-school program. Talking to them, she said, “completely changed my mindset.”

“They were all very young,” she said, “but they were so grateful for this education, that place after school that they could go far from their area.” “I was watching them all, and I was thinking about my situation and that I took it all for granted.”

She said the experience made her want to return the favor to others, though she did not specify whether she would continue volunteering at WhatsApp or anywhere else.

“I’m only at the beginning, and I want to keep doing things and find more things to do,” she said.